Notes originally from: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2019-December/254105.html
- jb opens, agenda for this meeting o what happened at last meeting (at VDD) o various next steps, technical committee, community committee o any votes that we might want to have for next time o time/date for next meeting - jb, summary of vdd: o who can vote o temp committees to bootstrap function o final committees will be during fosdem o long email about decision was mailed to ffmpeg-list o most feedback was positive, except from durandal - jb asks cehoyos for feedback on whether 20 commits is still ok to be considered participatory in voting o cehoyos says (on IRC) that he thinks 3 years is long, but other people (michael, ronald, jdarnley) appear fine with 3 years. o cehoyos also says non-coding contributors should be recognized (packages, server admins, mailing list admins), e.g. moritz or alexander strasser, and multiple people appear to agree, no disagreement is raised o j-b proposes to add them to the voting list for now, under the rule of "limited number of other non-coding contributors" o jamrial also thinks nevcariel should be added, thilo agrees o we decide to exclude kurosu and kierank for now, since they are not very active ATM o the same (for now) will go for libav contributions (anton, martin, janne) o should packagers get a vote? cehoyos thinks they should in some cases, e.g. gentoo, osx, windows, debian o several people raise various objections. ronald thinks they are not part of a core group. lynne proposes we only include people that contribute back. cehoyos says he specifically intends to bring in the pkg maintainers of debian, osx, windows (zeranoe) and gentoo since they do valuable work in "spreading our work" and contribute back. however, cehoyos suggests they should get one vote per package. j-b proposes we vote on each packager individually. the general consensus appears to be we want this, but limited o should people on technical committee also get voting right regardless of whether they meet the 20 vote threshold or not? o we understand that this is excluding people like kurosu and kierank, but as soon as they are active again, they will get in :) - jb brings up whether rodger's proposed voting mechanism is generally agreed upon (or even if anyone cares) o michael says on IRC: i suggested "Schulze STV" (to rodger) o nobody else seems to care much, primarily what matters is who gets to vote, not how we vote (jamrial) o [11:38am] <cehoyos> BBB: I wonder if the reason nobody comments is that nobody is aware that this does have "consequences"... [11:38am] <cehoyos> (I suspect it has consequences but still don't know what is "good" and what "not") o iilya (on IRC) says "all the condorcet methods should produce almost the same results anyway" - jb: next topic, technical conflict resolution committee o TC right now is: michael, james almer, ronald, martin, anton o jb will write down process as a markdown document o ronald says "we'll see how it works the first time, right?" o on IRC, anton, james almer, thilo agree to just see how it works out - jb: next topic, community committee o jb: "code of conduct?" o "what does videolan do?" o videolan has very specific rules about what you can not do in terms of behaviour on IRC etc., and how long you get kicked (escalation process) if you violate the rules o cehoyos on irc: using the one from videolan as basis could be done but is difficult to agree with or not since it is very non-specific o cehoyos and ronald: the CC should probably be tasked with updating the CoC to be more specific than the one we currently have. o michael on irc: the problem with the coC was primarily that we didn't enforce it. steven liu agrees o kierank and jamrial on irc think the current coc is not fit (kierank: "not fit for purpose", jamrial: "has no defined rules") o lydia proposes one round of feedback so people can say what works for them and what does not o most people agree with CC proposing changes to CoC, then all people voting on the result from that. jb/lydia will help with that. - cehoyos asks about reimbursement limits for conferences from the ffmpeg funds. o there appears no disagreement that the amounts he's quoting (EUR 320 for hotel, EUR hotel for flight) is fine o jb thinks this should not be done on list to protect people's private information re: reimbursements because it includes details like where you went or where from o michael and cehoyos think the general requesting of reimbursements should be public so people can comment/object, but there is agreement some more personal information should be allowed to be kept private o jb: videolan has travel policy with how much is ok for going where etc. - Lynne asks about non-conference expenses, since we have funds but no clear process to "spend" ffmpeg's money o jb asks if she can be more specific about what she's thinking of o cehoyos agrees with lynna - next meet? o one month? or every second month? jb prefers monthly, jamrial/michaelni prefer bi-monthly o stevenliu/anton/james darnley/thilo/koda/nightrose/iilya/jb want early january, jamrial/michaelni/ronald want at fosdem, so jan 6 (or around) is decided for next meet - cehoyos also proposes we tell ffmpeg devs they "should" (not "can") come to fosdem and that the funds will pay for reasonable travel expenses - jb closes meeting
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