Opened 9 years ago

Closed 9 years ago

Last modified 9 years ago

#2835 closed defect (fixed)

FFMPEG created WTV files stop working with Microsoft Update KB2670838

Reported by: ramitb Owned by:
Priority: normal Component: avformat
Version: git-master Keywords: wtv
Cc: Blocked By:
Blocking: Reproduced by developer: yes
Analyzed by developer: no


Summary of the bug: WTV files created by ffmpeg stop playing in WMP and Windows MCE when Microsoft Windows Update KB2670838 is installed.
However MCE created WTV files continue to play fine, only ffmpeg created WTV file don't play.

When KB2670838 update is UnInstalled, MCE and WMP are able to play ffmpeg created WTV files.

I understand WTV is a closed format but is there any way to know why MCE created WTV files play but ffmpeg created WTV files don't play?

Change History (9)

comment:1 by ramitb, 9 years ago

BTW, on a related note ffmpeg created WTV files do NOT play on Windows 8 WMP or MCE either.

comment:2 by Carl Eugen Hoyos, 9 years ago

Component: undeterminedavformat
Keywords: wtv added
Reproduced by developer: set
Status: newopen
Version: unspecifiedgit-master

Audio works fine, looks like a duplicate of ticket #2252.

$ ffmpeg -f lavfi -i testsrc -t 60 out.wtv
ffmpeg version N-55249-ga7bb12a Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Aug  6 2013 08:47:17 with gcc 4.7 (SUSE Linux)
  configuration: --enable-gpl --disable-indev=jack
  libavutil      52. 40.100 / 52. 40.100
  libavcodec     55. 20.100 / 55. 20.100
  libavformat    55. 13.102 / 55. 13.102
  libavdevice    55.  3.100 / 55.  3.100
  libavfilter     3. 82.100 /  3. 82.100
  libswscale      2.  4.100 /  2.  4.100
  libswresample   0. 17.103 /  0. 17.103
  libpostproc    52.  3.100 / 52.  3.100
Input #0, lavfi, from 'testsrc':
  Duration: N/A, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (RGB[24] / 0x18424752), rgb24, 320x240 [SAR 1:1 DAR 4:3], 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
Output #0, wtv, to 'out.wtv':
    encoder         : Lavf55.13.102
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (mpg2 / 0x3267706D), yuv420p, 320x240 [SAR 1:1 DAR 4:3], q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 10000k tbn, 25 tbc
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (rawvideo -> mpeg2video)
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
frame= 1500 fps=1220 q=9.9 Lsize=    1964kB time=00:00:59.96 bitrate= 268.3kbits/s
video:1750kB audio:0kB subtitle:0 global headers:0kB muxing overhead 12.243855%

comment:3 by ramitb, 9 years ago

That's true, audio appears to be playing fine on all platforms, the video is not working. And yes it could be related to the 2252. I'm guess post some update to the windows platform, all devices running that update will not be able to play the wtv video.

comment:4 by ramitb, 9 years ago

Any update on this?

comment:5 by John Freiman, 9 years ago

I too am having this issue with WTV files. After they are created I can not play them back in either Windows Media Center or Windows Media Player.
I am running Windows 8.1 and can not remove the KB as it does not exist.

comment:6 by p3ngwin, 9 years ago

same problem here too on Windows 7.

With the MS Update, "decode Error" and can't play the files, remove the update and everything works fine.

comment:7 by Carl Eugen Hoyos, 9 years ago

Allow me to try to summarize:

  • MS invented a new media file format "wtv" and did not provide any documentation
  • FFmpeg developers reverse-engineered the format, creating a demuxer and a muxer
  • The muxer worked fine for the codecs it supported
  • The muxer still works fine if you did not update Windows
  • MS changed something within their operating systems (the wtv filter) that makes the files (the muxer) not work anymore

Did anybody report this to Microsoft? Asking for hints how this should be fixed? Sending them a short file that used to work but does not work anymore? The reason I ask is that nobody posted a link to a MS support forum where this is discussed nor some excerpt of an email exchange.
We are of course (very) thankful that this problem was reported here but please understand that there is not much FFmpeg developers can easily do about it. I am not saying MS will help in any way but for those who are interested in this problem the most simple way to go would probably be to (also) report this to MS.

comment:8 by Carl Eugen Hoyos, 9 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: openclosed

Fixed by Peter Ross in 6da21c1f

comment:9 by ramitb, 9 years ago


It works like a charm!

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