| 12 | | {{{some log}}} |
| | 12 | {{{ |
| | 13 | [14:10:59] <j-b> hello |
| | 14 | [14:11:01] <j-b> https://hangouts.google.com/call/jYaO0pADYZELBBfsntHgAEEI |
| | 15 | [14:11:13] <thardin> hullo |
| | 16 | [14:11:40] <J_Darnley> I can't invite, need op |
| | 17 | [14:13:07] <thardin> ugh google wants me phone# |
| | 18 | [14:13:12] <thardin> my |
| | 19 | [14:14:23] <Lynne> just use talky.io |
| | 20 | [14:14:47] <JEEB> I hope I'm showing up as muted since this UI isn't making me sure if I am or not (I should be) |
| | 21 | [14:15:03] <j-b> Do you people hear us? |
| | 22 | [14:15:20] <JEEB> no audio so far |
| | 23 | [14:15:34] <jamrial> no |
| | 24 | [14:15:35] <StevenLiu> No |
| | 25 | [14:15:51] <wbs> I'm just following irc, not the hangout unfortunately |
| | 26 | [14:16:10] <JEEB> ok, james's video feed picked up |
| | 27 | [14:16:24] <j-b> JEEB: with sound ? |
| | 28 | [14:16:42] <J_Darnley> neat |
| | 29 | [14:16:56] <JEEB> no sound still but I can just attempt to re-join |
| | 30 | [14:17:19] <JEEB> nope |
| | 31 | [14:17:27] <JEEB> ok, audio |
| | 32 | [14:17:28] <StevenLiu> yes |
| | 33 | [14:17:31] <jamrial> yeah |
| | 34 | [14:17:32] <StevenLiu> have audio |
| | 35 | [14:20:13] <thardin> I'm in. idling with mic off |
| | 36 | [14:26:55] <thardin> usually what you do is have a nomination committee that asks people in advance and then present the nominees |
| | 37 | [14:27:53] <cehoyos> Can everybody hear? |
| | 38 | [14:28:14] <thardin> I can hear |
| | 39 | [14:28:20] <JEEB> voting 1: 3d, vote 2: a week, so seems like the conn is working here :) |
| | 40 | [14:28:21] <StevenLiu> I can too |
| | 41 | [14:28:23] <cehoyos> Atm we don’t copy into irc what is said |
| | 42 | [14:29:08] <JEEB> (v1 was IIRC people nominated who might not otherwise show up on voting list, v2 was committees, right?) |
| | 43 | [14:29:15] <Illya> git log --since="last 36 months" --author="name" --oneline | wc -l |
| | 44 | [14:29:16] <Illya> yes |
| | 45 | [14:29:18] <cehoyos> Jeeb: Please write short summaries about what you hear |
| | 46 | [14:29:24] <BBB> the hangout in the topic is empty btw |
| | 47 | [14:29:31] <cehoyos> (mobile phone here) |
| | 48 | [14:29:36] <JEEB> BBB: https://hangouts.google.com/call/jYaO0pADYZELBBfsntHgAEEI |
| | 49 | [14:30:16] <JEEB> cehoyos: will attempt. |
| | 50 | [14:30:22] <StevenLiu> git log --no-merges --since=2020-01-25T00:00:00Z --until 2020-02-01T00:00:00Z --pretty=fuller | grep '^Author:' | sed 's/<.*//' |sort | uniq -c | sort -nr |
| | 51 | [14:31:03] <cehoyos> Ty |
| | 52 | [14:31:06] <JEEB> j-b noting - CoC more like a values list as opposed to specific rules. there will be a suggestion which would then be voted on |
| | 53 | [14:33:08] <JEEB> Lynne noting - various audio decoders do checks already done avcodec common utils |
| | 54 | [14:33:17] <JEEB> (if I acught that right) |
| | 55 | [14:33:41] <michaelni> i have some difficulty understanding lynne with my headphones |
| | 56 | [14:35:24] <Lynne> michaelni: the sample rate and other checks in audio decoders that are now checked internally by the API so they should be removed |
| | 57 | [14:35:39] <Lynne> you added them, I pinged you on IRC and you didn't remove them |
| | 58 | [14:36:07] <michaelni> Lynne, i dont remember abouzt the ping but yes if there are redundant checks i should remove them |
| | 59 | [14:36:15] <michaelni> ping me again until i react! |
| | 60 | [14:36:42] <JEEB> for new joiners: since the topic is out of date if you want to join muted the URL is https://hangouts.google.com/call/jYaO0pADYZELBBfsntHgAEEI |
| | 61 | [14:36:59] <jamrial> patches would not be "lost" if we move to gitlab, for example |
| | 62 | [14:37:32] <JEEB> gitlab move: I guess main part being discussed atm being merge requests |
| | 63 | [14:37:44] <thardin> if patches are handled by say gitlab, is it possible to subscribe via rss/atom? |
| | 64 | [14:38:01] <JEEB> I think yes, you can cehck with videolan's gitlab instance |
| | 65 | [14:38:45] <JEEB> couldn't find RSS/atom right away, but they have JSON https://code.videolan.org/videolan/x264/merge_requests.json |
| | 66 | [14:38:50] <thardin> ugh |
| | 67 | [14:38:56] <JEEB> (just giving x264 as an example) |
| | 68 | [14:39:02] <thardin> I keep track of mxf issues over rss |
| | 69 | [14:39:11] <thardin> which is really handy |
| | 70 | [14:39:21] <haasn> thardin: there are atom feeds for project activity, not sure if there's one *specific* to MRs |
| | 71 | [14:39:27] <JEEB> ah |
| | 72 | [14:39:33] <thardin> haasn: that might be enough |
| | 73 | [14:39:46] <thardin> rss readers typically haev filters |
| | 74 | [14:39:57] <michaelni> i dont see the problem with the existing infrastructure, so i dont see why we should move to gitlab |
| | 75 | [14:40:05] <haasn> e.g. https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d.atom |
| | 76 | [14:40:47] <thardin> I run a gitlab instance at uni, and one thing I've found with gitlab is that it's.. a big thing. like it sometimes breaks for seemingly random reasons |
| | 77 | [14:42:16] <JEEB> yes, it's a very large ruby on rails thing, which is why I would hopefully share the system with another project, like videolan |
| | 78 | [14:42:31] <thardin> that sounds like a good idea |
| | 79 | [14:43:01] <thardin> I upgraded our instance when the last ubuntu lts came out, which was a bit of a chore but now I don't have to care about it for a long time |
| | 80 | [14:43:01] <haasn> (one consideration that shouldn't be ignored IMHO is that MRs also have a lower barrier for entry for outside contributions, since adopting a ML workflow for people not familiar with the project is a nonzero amount of hassle) |
| | 81 | [14:43:45] <michaelni> Lynne, when you have time please send me a mail or something about the checks with fuzzing that you know are redundant and that i should remove |
| | 82 | [14:44:31] <thardin> one annoying thing with gitlab is that it requires js just to read tickets |
| | 83 | [14:45:43] <JEEB> carl noting that amd and nvidia people nowadays tend to try and be more thoughtful of current FFmpeg design, while Intel seems to attempt to push more driver-specificness there? (if I got it right?) |
| | 84 | [14:45:53] <JEEB> (mostly wrt pix_fmts?) |
| | 85 | [14:47:32] <JEEB> j-b suggestion: there will be a call to see their reasonings |
| | 86 | [14:48:33] <thardin> https://live.fosdem.org/watch/h3242 might also work for people who want to listen |
| | 87 | [14:49:25] *** Parts: wm4 (~wm4@p200300E7FF1FD095E15E376A87A246FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) ("Leaving") |
| | 88 | [14:49:30] <JEEB> (so I guess this is something post-P010?) |
| | 89 | [14:49:54] <michaelni> "https://live.fosdem.org/watch/h3242" says "Whoops, looks like something went wrong." for me |
| | 90 | [14:51:32] <thardin> yeah, for me too |
| | 91 | [14:51:45] <thardin> in the future we should try to use some free protocol, say xmpp |
| | 92 | [14:51:59] <JEEB> j-b noting: nvidia was not aware of issues with their headers, there will be discussions wrt that |
| | 93 | [14:52:01] <thardin> or H.323 :] |
| | 94 | [14:52:19] <cehoyos> We are not aware either... |
| | 95 | [14:53:30] <JEEB> j-b noting: should git commit access list have clean-ups? |
| | 96 | [14:55:00] <thardin> if we switch to something like gitlab then we could have gitlab-ci automagically run FATE and merge patchsets in once they've been approved |
| | 97 | [14:55:13] <JEEB> at least the FATE part, yes |
| | 98 | [14:55:43] <JEEB> (probably not all archs/OSs, but at least on some level) |
| | 99 | [14:56:08] <thardin> and most importantly, refuse to merge if things break on some (important) platform |
| | 100 | [14:57:30] <thardin> yeah no, cmake is terribl |
| | 101 | [14:59:21] <JEEB> Lynne noting that gstreamer had a meson version of our build system, which was gaining interest while the bash-based thing was slow. then the configure script got sped up and interest vained |
| | 102 | [14:59:43] <JEEB> kierank noting the lavf I/O and demuxing parts being interchanged |
| | 103 | [14:59:46] <JEEB> *entangled |
| | 104 | [14:59:52] <JEEB> thank you, that is a better word :) |
| | 105 | [15:00:59] <JEEB> j-b noting that due to the playlist/manifest based HTTP formats, it has become less clear cut as before |
| | 106 | [15:01:55] <JEEB> next meeting around in 1.5 months? |
| | 107 | [15:02:04] <jamrial> sounds good |
| | 108 | [15:02:16] <StevenLiu> lgtm |
| | 109 | [15:03:20] <thardin> sure |
| | 110 | [15:03:35] <JEEB> alright, room being cleared up |
| | 111 | [15:03:47] <thardin> what's that whistling? |
| | 112 | [15:03:57] <JEEB> probably the door, I remember them being funky or so |
| | 113 | [15:04:01] <JEEB> (of the room) |
| | 114 | [15:04:04] <BBB> is the a summary of the first 20 minutes or was anything important decided? will there be a summary sent to the list? |
| | 115 | [15:04:36] <StevenLiu> JEEB: "that due to the playlist/manifest based HTTP formats" which part? demuxer and muxwer? |
| | 116 | [15:04:40] <StevenLiu> muxer? |
| | 117 | [15:04:48] <JEEB> StevenLiu: that was demuxer side which j-b mentioned |
| | 118 | [15:05:13] <StevenLiu> Thanks JEEB and j-b |
| | 119 | [15:05:44] <JEEB> BBB: I would expect there to be a minutes posted. the two voting thing were: 1. nominating people who possibly wouldn't get picked up by the commit count rule (three-day vote) 2. committee vote that is free, but if you get nominated you can say no |
| | 120 | [15:05:50] <JEEB> (1w vote) |
| | 121 | [15:07:48] <cehoyos> Was there an answer? |
| | 122 | [15:08:13] <StevenLiu> for which question? |
| | 123 | [15:08:25] <durandal_1707> is meeting already over ? :( |
| | 124 | [15:08:40] <cehoyos> If other people were on the summary of last irc meeting |
| | 125 | [15:08:55] <JEEB> other people? |
| | 126 | [15:08:57] <cehoyos> no, apparently the room is only needed in one hour |
| | 127 | [15:09:21] <cehoyos> there was no question from me? |
| | 128 | [15:09:50] <JEEB> your last message was > 15:52 < cehoyos> We are not aware either... (wrt nvidia headers) |
| | 129 | [15:09:53] <JEEB> then a disconnect |
| | 130 | [15:10:15] <cehoyos> I asked if - spart from A Strasser, Moritz and Lou (I dont know how many commits they have) should be listed to be voters |
| | 131 | [15:10:29] <JEEB> ah yes, that was the first one. which was the first, 3d vote? |
| | 132 | [15:10:36] <cehoyos> It seems I didn’t send the question, sorry |
| | 133 | [15:12:04] <BBB> JEEB: tnx |
| | 134 | [15:12:26] <StevenLiu> ffmpeg-devel-irc's archive program maybe have some problem |
| | 135 | [15:12:39] <StevenLiu> http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel-irc/2020-January/006244.html |
| | 136 | [15:13:01] <cehoyos> We now (today) have three names on the list to be voters even if they don’t have the necessary commits |
| | 137 | [15:13:02] <StevenLiu> only "[00:00:00 CET] --- Thu Jan 30 2020 " there |
| | 138 | [15:13:07] <cehoyos> Yes |
| | 139 | [15:14:29] <durandal_1707> can we move to more crucial issues, irrelevant voters stuff is on the list each and every meeting |
| | 140 | [15:16:18] <StevenLiu> isn't that end? |
| | 141 | [15:16:34] <cehoyos> Kind of, yes |
| | 142 | [15:16:49] <StevenLiu> ok :) |
| | 143 | [15:16:52] <JEEB> durandal_1707: there were other discussions as well, you just joined later and thus you just saw someone noting something regarding to one of the first parts of the discussion |
| | 144 | [15:17:27] <cehoyos> So my question was: Is there anybody who see last time’s summary and can check if anybody else was mentioned back then? |
| | 145 | [15:18:05] <JEEB> right |
| | 146 | [15:19:37] <JEEB> last time was a bit special since it was a boot-up |
| | 147 | [15:20:03] <cehoyos> I thought Ronald send a summary |
| | 148 | [15:20:12] <JEEB> yea, I just don't notice a list of special nominees |
| | 149 | [15:20:18] <michaelni> StevenLiu, about the IRC log, forwarded your coment to burek |
| | 150 | [15:20:19] <JEEB> in > FFmpeg developer meeting 2019/12/9 notes |
| | 151 | [15:20:36] <J_Darnley> We're done. |
| | 152 | [15:20:40] <JEEB> also thanks for everyone wrt the meeting |
| | 153 | [15:20:49] <J_Darnley> I hope you enjoyed the show (if you watched). |
| | 154 | [15:20:58] <JEEB> also was nice listening in on the Y210 discussion |
| | 155 | [15:20:58] <J_Darnley> I'll have to read this log later |
| | 156 | [15:21:12] <durandal_1707> was show recorded in any way? |
| | 157 | [15:21:18] <J_Darnley> Not on my end. |
| | 158 | [15:21:25] * michaelni had quite some difficulty understanding people through the microphone used today |
| | 159 | [15:21:34] <JEEB> anyways, wrt pixel formats, while it is C++ I have recently more and more moved towards zimg |
| | 160 | [15:21:49] <durandal_1707> ban him ^ |
| | 161 | [15:22:05] <JEEB> just noted since someone (j-b?) called for a new pixel format conversion thing on CPUs |
| | 162 | [15:22:10] <J_Darnley> Sorry, my shitty internal one |
| | 163 | [15:22:47] <J_Darnley> Perhaps I needed to leave it louder. |
| | 164 | [15:22:58] <michaelni> no need to be sorry, it was better than nothing :) |
| | 165 | [15:22:59] <durandal_1707> called, but with no money provided, they expect people work for free or for miserable paycheck |
| | 166 | [15:23:10] <michaelni> dont think louder would have helped |
| | 167 | [15:23:32] <michaelni> also seemed the connection at least the one i had was going up and down to rather low bitrates |
| | 168 | [15:24:06] <J_Darnley> kierank for one complains that the wifi here is shit. |
| | 169 | [15:24:19] <JEEB> yea, that probably caused the drops at some points which were short thankfully |
| | 170 | [15:25:08] <durandal_1707> ffmpeg meeting - with bad infrastructure |
| | 171 | [15:25:48] <J_Darnley> I should build my own using a €2000 camera |
| | 172 | [15:26:06] <J_Darnley> How do I get Hangouts to ingest it though. |
| | 173 | [15:29:43] <cehoyos> Good bye everybody! |
| | 174 | [15:34:04] <durandal_1707> so what was discussed if at all? what where conclusions? if any. |
| | 175 | [15:38:35] *** Parts: Lynne (~lynne@pars.ee) () |
| | 176 | [16:00:43] <kierank> durandal_1707: will be send by email iirc |
| | 177 | [16:12:02] <kierank> j-b took photo |
| | 178 | }}} |
