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Dec 5, 2023:

11:16 PM Ticket #10712 (format + overlay OOM after stream EOF) updated by Leon
Thanks for the fix!
7:51 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [e78c6a1] by Thilo Borgmann <thilo.borgmann@mail.de>
MAINTAINERS: add myself as vvc maintainer
5:44 PM Ticket #10712 (format + overlay OOM after stream EOF) closed by Elon Musk
fixed: Fixed in d9e41ead82263e96ebd14d4d88d6e7f858dd944c
4:49 PM Ticket #10725 (mediacodecdec tunneled playback support) created by luckysk
The mediacodec decoder in ffmpeg also seems to lack tunneled playback …
3:40 PM Ticket #9983 (Build error with clang on 32 bit Windows) closed by Christoph Reiter
fixed: Yeah, this can be closed. It regressed again in the meantime, but …
3:40 PM Ticket #9983 (Build error with clang on 32 bit Windows) closed by Sam James
fixed
3:33 PM Ticket #10724 (Build failure with stricter C compilers (e.g. GCC 14)) created by Sam James
Summary of the bug: ffmpeg's vulkan_av1.c fails to build w/ GCC 14 …
3:29 PM Ticket #9983 (Build error with clang on 32 bit Windows) updated by Sam James
I think this got fixed a while back in …
1:50 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [3047f05a] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
tests/fate: add asegment filter tests
1:50 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [7e453dad] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avcodec/qoadec: fix overreads and fix packet size check
1:44 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [6e26a5a6] by J. Dekker <jdek@itanimul.li>
doc/developer: require asm for RISC-V Explicitly document our usage …
11:38 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [22daf214] by Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
avcodec/av1dec: Fix resolving zero divisor Fixes: Out of array read …
11:12 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [4cdf2c7f] by Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
avformat/mov: Ignore duplicate ftyp Fixes: switch_1080p_720p.mp4 …
10:54 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [b60d39fb] by Leo Izen <leo.izen@gmail.com>
fate/jpegxl: add parser test for extboxes and small files Add a fate …
10:54 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [c4be080e] by Leo Izen <leo.izen@gmail.com>
avcodec/jpegxl_parser: fix parsing sequences of extremely small files …
10:53 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [019b3ea6] by Leo Izen <leo.izen@gmail.com>
avcodec/jpegxl_parse{,r}: use correct ISOBMFF extended size location …
8:23 AM Ticket #10720 (ALAC_AT (AudioToolbox) broken in recent versions.) updated by jeromec
Works fine with FFmpeg 5.0.1 Broken with FFmpeg 5.1 Works fine with …
2:12 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [35a555e2] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
lavfi/vf_vpp_qsv: set the default value of async_depth to 4 Both qsv …
2:11 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [05debdaa] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
lavu/hwcontext_qsv: use mfxImplDescription instead of …
2:10 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [fc73b372] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
lavc/qsvdec: reduce info message when more data is required demote …
2:10 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [e233f3e] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
lavc/qsvdec: return 0 if more data is required The type of qsv …
2:10 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [5717fbbe] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
configure: don't warn deprecated symbols from libvpl libvpl …
2:09 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [d36d9994] by Haihao Xiang <haihao.xiang@intel.com>
lavu/hwcontext_vaapi: ignore nonexistent device in default DRM device …

Dec 4, 2023:

10:31 PM Concatenate edited by iconoclasthero
this does not include From docs: … (diff)
10:26 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') closed by iconoclasthero
worksforme
10:25 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') reopened by iconoclasthero
Sorry, I'm referring to https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate.
10:24 PM 09_fix_librsvgdec_compilation.patch attached to Ticket #10722 by Lastique
A fix for the compilation error.
10:23 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') closed by Elon Musk
invalid
10:23 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') updated by Elon Musk
From docs: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-formats.html#concat-1 3.5.1 …
10:22 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') reopened by iconoclasthero
10:20 PM Ticket #10653 (cc1 compile error. Thinks -march=native is -march=16) updated by Balling
Native is not always valid value for march=
10:20 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') updated by iconoclasthero
No where in the text of the referenced documentation (i.e., for …
10:20 PM Ticket #10723 (Issue in vulkan_export_to_cuda when dealing with RGBA frames) created by Xaphiosis
Summary of the bug: This comes from the ALVR project. We were trying …
10:14 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [9e74c7ae] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_dialoguenhance: add double-floating point sample format support
10:14 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [704ef556] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_surround: refactor some code
10:14 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [634216d] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
fate: Add tests for QOA decoder
10:03 PM Ticket #10722 (Build failure with librsvg older than 2.52) created by Lastique
Compiling ffmpeg 6.1 on Debian Bullseye with librsvg 2.50.3 fails with …
7:18 PM Ticket #10721 (http: protocol for output ignores HTTP errors) created by maximrazin
Summary of the bug: When ffmpeg output uses http: protocol, and HTTP …
6:58 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') closed by Cigaes
invalid: “special characters and spaces must be escaped with backslash or …
6:54 PM Ticket #9766 (h264_qsv decoder does not work with RTSP) updated by rtsp qsv
Error still present on: ffmpeg 5.1.2-3ubuntu1 ffmpeg 6.0-6ubuntu1 …
6:29 PM Ticket #10640 (Incorrect interpretation of PNG data in "monob" pixel format) updated by Joey Sodergren
I have upgraded my copy of FFMPEG to 6.1, and I can confirm the issue …
6:00 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [9f1dbca8] by Kyle Swanson <kswanson@netflix.com>
avfilter/libvmaf: small cleanup for style, whitespace, unused …
5:39 PM Ticket #10720 (ALAC_AT (AudioToolbox) broken in recent versions.) updated by Atarikid
FWW works fine with FFmpeg 6.0
5:36 PM Ticket #10720 (ALAC_AT (AudioToolbox) broken in recent versions.) created by Atarikid
alac_at (hardware accelerated encoding with AudioToolBox) is not …
4:34 PM Ticket #10719 (https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate fails when file names contain ') created by iconoclasthero
Summary of the bug: In this documentation for concat, it does not …
12:32 PM ffmpeg-20231204-102141.log attached to Ticket #10718 by mistotebe
Another, longer, run with same issue, for comparison
12:31 PM ffmpeg-20231204-100708.log attached to Ticket #10718 by mistotebe
A sample run
12:31 PM Ticket #10718 (Issues playing BBC radio, streams abruptly ending) created by mistotebe
Hi, I'm playing BBC radio but recently the streams have started …
11:47 AM Ticket #9766 (h264_qsv decoder does not work with RTSP) updated by rtsp qsv
Behavior still present on ffmpeg version 4.4.2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 …
9:05 AM BadContent edited by Michael Koch
add regular expression (diff)
6:59 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [2c87aa0b] by Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
lavc/Makefile: build vulkan decode code if vulkan_av1 has been enabled …
6:57 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [8c117b75] by Lynne <dev@lynne.ee>
lavc/Makefile: build vulkan decode code if vulkan_av1 has been enabled …

Dec 3, 2023:

10:26 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [d9e41ead] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/avfilter: fix OOM case for default activate Fixes OOM when …
9:22 PM Ticket #10714 (FFmpeg 6.1 nlmeans_vulkan unwanted mosaic effect) updated by ioctl
> Why you use magick? Because I have it installed in my system. It's …
6:18 PM Ticket #10703 (ffmpeg 6.1 and master error opening media) updated by Frank Plowman
Analyzed by developer, Reproduced by developer changed
This issue is caused by the sample file being mis-identified as a VVC …
5:43 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [e3e3531d] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/vsrc_gradients: make rotation always continuous if speed changes
5:30 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [8888574d] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/vsrc_gradients: add commands support
2:02 PM BadContent edited by Michael Koch
(diff)
12:03 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [ddecc39c] by Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
doc/encoders/libx264: review and extend option description Also, …
12:02 PM Ticket #10548 (Link error when compiling ffmpeg with clang and enabling lto) updated by kasper93
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15259
8:33 AM BadContent edited by Michael Koch
update search patterns (diff)
2:10 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [f84412d6] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/vf_corr: for all zero returns zero score instead of 1
2:10 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [aad32239] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/vf_corr: add slice threading support

Dec 2, 2023:

5:10 PM Ticket #10717 (Issue with CompilationGuide/ubuntu) updated by iconoclasthero
The issue with gnutils appears to date back three years or so: …
5:07 PM Ticket #10717 (Issue with CompilationGuide/ubuntu) updated by iconoclasthero
There's another error. I double checked and the compile guide does not …
4:43 PM Ticket #10717 (Issue with CompilationGuide/ubuntu) created by iconoclasthero
Summary of the bug: How to reproduce: […] this results in an …
4:16 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [12598e72] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
checkasm: Fix the signature of float_to_fixed24 The len parameter was …
3:51 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [0a13178d] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avcodec/qoadec: add support for midstream sample rate/layout changes
3:27 PM rose2.png attached to Ticket #10716 by Leo Izen
3:27 PM rose2.pfm attached to Ticket #10716 by Leo Izen
3:27 PM rose.pfm attached to Ticket #10716 by Leo Izen
3:27 PM Ticket #10716 (swscale produces bright green when going from grayf32 to gbrpf32) created by Leo Izen
Summary of the bug: Swscale produces bright green RGB data when …
3:05 PM Ticket #10576 (qsv does not deinterlace properly) closed by AmshTemp
wontfix
3:02 PM Ticket #10576 (qsv does not deinterlace properly) updated by AmshTemp
I tested it on another relatively modern processor. Indeed my …
2:29 PM Ticket #10715 (QSV decoder fails to get configured and issues Error initializing the ...) created by tipoman
I have a RTSP server streaming h265(HEVC) video. I can play the video …
12:45 PM Ticket #10714 (FFmpeg 6.1 nlmeans_vulkan unwanted mosaic effect) updated by Elon Musk
Why you use magick?
10:46 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [133069b4] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
lavc/dvdsubenc: only check canvas size when it is actually set Fixes …
10:32 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [111035cc] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
lavc/dvdsubenc: only check canvas size when it is actually set Fixes …
10:22 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [5230257e] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
lavc/dvdsubenc: only check canvas size when it is actually set Fixes …
10:22 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [6a22d800] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
doc/filters:ddagrab: elaborate on the semantics of framerate
10:22 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [e5ce4730] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
swscale/x86/rgb_2_rgb: Add opaque pointer to missed definitions of …
8:53 AM gradient_mesh-cl.jpg attached to Ticket #10714 by ioctl
Good gradient file treated with the same, but OpenCL filter.
8:52 AM gradient_mesh.jpg attached to Ticket #10714 by ioctl
Original gradient file.
8:51 AM gradient_mesh-vulk.jpg attached to Ticket #10714 by ioctl
Gradient file with unwanted mosaic effect
8:50 AM Ticket #10714 (FFmpeg 6.1 nlmeans_vulkan unwanted mosaic effect) created by ioctl
With nlmeans_vulkan image become is a slightly mosaic. Steps to …
8:40 AM Ticket #10661 (FFmpeg 6.1 nlmeans_vulkan video filter has visual defects) updated by ioctl
The same problem even without "Device doesn't support atomic float …

Dec 1, 2023:

11:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [2182173a] by Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
avformat/mov: Fix integer overflow in mov_read_packet(). Fixes …
8:31 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [db7b8382] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/vf_chromanr: compare correct variables for advanced mode
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [fa047034] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_qpel_bi_hv …
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [595f9702] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_qpel_bi_v …
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [00290a64] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_epel_bi_hv …
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [0448f27f] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_epel_bi_v …
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [216275bd] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_epel_bi_h …
7:25 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [40cf4a5c] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/aarch64: new optimization for 8-bit hevc_pel_bi_pixels …
6:26 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [d0ec8260] by Rémi Denis-Courmont <remi@remlab.net>
checkasm/ac3dsp: add float_to_fixed24 test Signed-off-by: Rémi …
3:58 PM Ticket #10713 (compile fail when libglslang is enabled) updated by dmillfree
Version changed
3:58 PM Ticket #10713 (compile fail when libglslang is enabled) created by dmillfree
Summary of the bug: Compile fails with libglslang enabled How to …
3:42 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [6d196112] by James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>
avcodec/ac3dsp: add missing stddef.h include Should fix make …
2:08 PM Ticket #10712 (format + overlay OOM after stream EOF) updated by Leon
Description changed
This OOM case isn't limited to format, it also happens with scale
1:58 PM Ticket #10712 (format + overlay OOM after stream EOF) updated by Leon
Keywords, Description, Summary changed
Sorry for the mixup, I misidentified the cause to be the scale
1:21 PM Ticket #10712 (format + overlay OOM after stream EOF) created by Leon
Summary of the bug: As in #10698, but now using the format filter …
11:26 AM Ticket #10709 (-c:v h264_cuvid -deint 2 does not work) updated by aef
Description changed
11:25 AM Ticket #10709 (-c:v h264_cuvid -deint 2 does not work) updated by aef
I tried workaround from #10409 and it worked. Set -c:v h264_cuvid …
11:24 AM Ticket #10709 (-c:v h264_cuvid -deint 2 does not work) updated by aef
Driver version is 474.64. I tried both dch and standard versions. …
9:31 AM Ticket #10677 (Use of unitizlised variables when parsing invalid pan filters) updated by Cigaes
Hi. Thanks for the report. See the patch on the mailing-list: …
2:57 AM out.ts attached to Ticket #10711 by paul31415
2:57 AM Ticket #10711 (Parsing dash/vp9 chunk fails with "error reading header") created by paul31415
Summary of the bug: ffprobe fails with "error reading header" How to …

Nov 30, 2023:

5:19 PM Ticket #10710 (Audio cracklings when decoding WAV PCM files with avcodec_receive_frame) closed by Elon Musk
invalid: To read samples you need to use data[0] for packed sample formats. And …
4:08 PM Ticket #10642 ([hwaccel] AV1 hardware decoding for Apple M3) updated by Arkelic
I was able to set up this branch on my M3 MacBook Pro and here is the …
3:55 PM ffmpeg-decode_wav.c attached to Ticket #10710 by fabi78
3:55 PM Ticket #10710 (Audio cracklings when decoding WAV PCM files with avcodec_receive_frame) created by fabi78
The bug concerns FFMPEG API, not ffmpeg program. To learn how to use …
2:18 PM Ticket #10698 (VOBsub overlay leaks memory after subtitle stream EOF) updated by Leon
Yep, that works. Thanks for the fix!
10:08 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [a30adf9f] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/framesync: fix OOM case Fixes OOM when caller keeps adding …
10:06 AM Ticket #10650 (Subtitle problem in new ffmpeg version transcoding crashes with sume ...) updated by elenril
Analyzed by developer, Cc, Reproduced by developer changed
Caused by 94968dbc1116e23cb658c09538e9bce52b63d654
10:03 AM Ticket #10698 (VOBsub overlay leaks memory after subtitle stream EOF) closed by Elon Musk
fixed: Fixed in a30adf9f96254f4870066c98a6dbf13fc74515a3
9:08 AM Ticket #10709 (-c:v h264_cuvid -deint 2 does not work) updated by Balling
Of course it does not work. Deint 2 (adaptive) is broken in recent …
12:45 AM Ticket #10709 (-c:v h264_cuvid -deint 2 does not work) created by aef
Summary of the bug: How to reproduce: […] Patches should be …
12:22 AM Ticket #10648 (release 6.1 build fails on MacOS) closed by David Arnstein
fixed: The developers have created git tag n6.1 and I find that the issue is …

Nov 29, 2023:

10:17 PM Ticket #10648 (release 6.1 build fails on MacOS) updated by Jann Gobble
I'm suffering the same w/ffmpeg 6.1 on x86_64: (compiled on Intel iMac …
8:47 PM Ticket #10708 (Segfault in static build when seeking into HTTP input file) updated by John P. Kiffmeyer
Cc changed
8:07 PM Ticket #10708 (Segfault in static build when seeking into HTTP input file) updated by John Sterling
Description changed
8:05 PM Ticket #10708 (Segfault in static build when seeking into HTTP input file) created by John Sterling
For static Linux builds of ffmpeg versions 6.0 and later, a segfault …
7:32 PM Ticket #10697 (Crash when using incompatible codec and hardware acceleration type) closed by iEvgeny
invalid
7:31 PM Ticket #10697 (Crash when using incompatible codec and hardware acceleration type) updated by iEvgeny
Not an ffmpeg bug. Occurs somewhere in the underlying libvpl/libmfx …
5:44 PM Ticket #3009 (Support mvc) updated by philcerf
I guess, that when one has an output device (like a 3D capable …
3:42 PM Ticket #3009 (Support mvc) updated by philcerf
Cc changed
1:24 PM Ticket #10680 (Bug in last ffmpeg opus decoder: output always 48 KHz) closed by Jose Peirote
wontfix
1:24 PM Ticket #10680 (Bug in last ffmpeg opus decoder: output always 48 KHz) updated by Jose Peirote
OK, thanks.
9:29 AM Ticket #10706 (support MVC 3D (Multiview Video Coding) for H.264) closed by Elon Musk
duplicate: Duplicate of #3009
7:04 AM Ticket #10684 (FFmpeg metadata rotate doesn't work since after v2023-05-04-git) closed by Melvin Nava
worksforme
7:03 AM Ticket #10684 (FFmpeg metadata rotate doesn't work since after v2023-05-04-git) updated by Melvin Nava
Replying to v0lt: > Use the "-display rotation" command. > …
2:55 AM Ticket #10707 (It spends too much time during the seek operation during video ...) created by king.liu
Summary of the bug: libavformat/matroskadec.c In matroska_read_seek …
2:24 AM Ticket #10706 (support MVC 3D (Multiview Video Coding) for H.264) created by philcerf
Hey. As far as I …
2:06 AM Ticket #10625 (SDL output freeze) updated by Angus
you can try this patch …

Nov 28, 2023:

9:13 PM Ticket #10705 (drawtext filter is missing) updated by Leo Butler
Please remove the links from the project website. You just made me …
8:41 PM Ticket #10705 (drawtext filter is missing) closed by Cigaes
invalid: Hi. We did not provide that binary and therefore do not provide …
8:39 PM Ticket #10705 (drawtext filter is missing) created by Leo Butler
Summary of the bug: Hello, The static build is compiled with …
5:01 PM Ticket #10684 (FFmpeg metadata rotate doesn't work since after v2023-05-04-git) updated by v0lt
Use the "-display rotation" command. Description can be found here -> …
3:09 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [47e21424] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/arls_template: use defines for all constants
2:40 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [f66536cc] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter: add Affine Projection adaptive audio filter
1:54 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [cc86343b] by Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st>
lavc/hevcdsp_qpel_neon: using movi.16b instead of movi.2d Building …
1:48 PM Ticket #10704 (FFmpeg cannot transmux file from GXF to MOV) updated by Gavin
File uploaded via VideoLAN File Uploader - filename 'IZ06000_dvcam.gxf'
12:17 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [67ce690b] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_anlms: set output frame duration
12:17 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [411c5164] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_arls: set output frame duration
12:17 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [bafbb069] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_amix: set output frame duration
12:17 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [358aced4] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_amultiply: set output frame duration
12:17 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [8b9c400f] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter/af_amerge: use already provided outlink
12:16 PM Changeset in ffmpeg [c979ccdf] by Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com>
avfilter: no need to request more samples if internal frame is available
12:11 PM Ticket #10704 (FFmpeg cannot transmux file from GXF to MOV) updated by Elon Musk
Input gxf file is required.
11:01 AM Ticket #10704 (FFmpeg cannot transmux file from GXF to MOV) created by Gavin
Summary of the bug: Trying to re-wrap a GXF file into an MOV …
10:34 AM Ticket #10680 (Bug in last ffmpeg opus decoder: output always 48 KHz) updated by Jun Zhao
same as #5240
8:07 AM Changeset in ffmpeg [66a02a85] by Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
tools/general_assembly: add newly voted-in extra GA members Cf. * …
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