Stirpping all stream and global tags still leaves some stuff (TSSE)

[sonicate]

Since tags are a kludge and a hack for mp3 files, as they break the concept of it being a raw dump of a mpeg stream, removing global and stream tags sould remove everything. Output should be like from the fraunhofer reference encoder from back in the day.

Same applies to WAV. FFMPEG Stubbornly leaves TSSE tag in wav header, even with -map_metadata -1 and -map_metadata:g -1:g etc.

There should be a way to exclude every abnormal addition to files, ID3 being a prime example for mp3. It should just start with frame sync right away. Same for WAVs - just a clean bare header without any tag trash.

Some older software freaks out with non bare, non usual sized headers.

Some older hardware earrapes with noise burst or just stops playing (with sync lost) if file has a tag in the beginning, or produces an earrape burst in the end of it, if tag is there.

Stripping off all metadata should strip it all off and not genarate any new, nor placeholders for such kludges.

[gjdfgh]

Isn't there a raw muxer for raw streams, which would achieve this?

The mp3 demuxer certainly shouldn't be able to create essentially broken files by e.g. omitting the VBR headers.

[sonicate]

VBR MP3 is by itself a broken thing, so it's ok for it still contain TSSE if it helps.

But normal CBR MP3 and definitely WAVs are not the case. Any auxilary information added to them is unnecessary optional hack/kludge.

So there should be a simple way to omit any metadata in output at all. Just bare minimum - header (if necessary), stream(s) and an index (if necessary for the format).

[Carl Eugen Hoyos]

Please provide a sample command linen (using -f lavfi -i sine or similar as input) and the complete, uncut console output to make this a valid ticket.

[Carl Eugen Hoyos]

Please reopen this ticket if you can explain how to reproduce.